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2004年02月03日

ボーダフォンV801SH

v801sh.gif関東地区では4月28日に発売だそうです。やっぱりSIMロックされているでしょうから(アタリマエ)、私みたいに海外での通話料を安く抑えたい人は買わないんでしょうね。日本でも高くてもいいので、SIMフリーの端末を出して欲しいと思います。スペックはこんな感じです。

  • GSM900/1800/1900とW-CDMAの4バンド対応
  • 約50×102×26mm、重さ約126g
  • 連続待ち受け時間200時間(W-CDMA) 220時間(GSM)
  • 連続通話時間120分(W-CDMA) 180分(GSM)

ボーダフォン公式サイト: V801SH
シャープのニュースリリース
2004/5/20: ケータイWatch モバイルCatch Up (法林岳之氏)
ケータイWatchより:

ボーダフォンは、100万画素カメラを搭載し、日本国内のW-CDMA方式だけではなく、欧米などでも利用可能なトライバンドのGSM方式にも対応したシャープ製VGS端末「V801SH」を4月上旬以降に発売する。
「V801SH」は、100万画素のCCDモバイルカメラを搭載し、日本国内だけではなく海外でも通話・通信可能なVodafone Global Standard(VGS)対応端末。テレビ電話機能には対応していない。メインディスプレイは、2.4インチ、320×240ドットで最大26万色表示が可能なシステム液晶で、背面のサブディスプレイは、1.2インチ、96×64ドットのGFカラー液晶。


[PR]ボーダフォンの携帯が新規0円!
(English follows...)

Vodafone (Japan) Announces V801SH, 3G / GSM Dual-mode Phone

Vodafone announced 3G (W-CDMA, available in Japan) and GSM 900/1800/1900 tri-band phone V801SH from Sharp, for their 3G service VGS (Vodafone Global Standard). V801SH will be delivered from 28 April 2004 in Kanto region including Tokyo.
With one million pixel-CCD color mobile camera and 2.4inch, 320x240 (QVGA) 260,000 color main display, the phone can be used in Japan as well as most of GSM-deployed countries. It does not, however, support 3G video calls. Sub-display on the back is 1.2inch, 96x64 GF color LCD.

In my opinion it will be SIM locked, so it's not for people who want to save money roaming overseas. I hope someday SIM-free W-CDMA and GSM dual mode phones (with Japanese capability!!) will be available... Here's the V801SH spec:

  • GSM900/1800/1900, W-CDMA (quad-band, dual-mode)
  • approx. 50x102x26mm, 126g
  • Standby Time 200 hours(W-CDMA), 220 hours(GSM)
  • Talk Time 120 minutes(W-CDMA) 180 minutes(GSM)

Vodafone Japan: V801SH

投稿者 hiroshiy : 2004年02月03日 01:25

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投稿者 masa : 2004年02月07日 09:57

こんにちは、hiroshiyさん。masaです。まえにV801SAの掲示板に書き込みをさせていただきました。こんかいV801SHが、4月に出るということで、7月あたりに日本に帰った際にぜひ購入しようかと思っているのですが、やはりSIMロックが・・・・。SIMロックの解除はそもそも電話機の発売からどれくらいの期間で出回ってくるものなのでしょう?それと、電話機のメーカーによって遅れたりもするものなのでしょうか?

投稿者 hiroshiy : 2004年02月08日 19:30

masaさん、SIMロックを解除する行為は携帯電話会社の利益に反することですから、それらの「裏技」が出回るのはパチンコの攻略本と同じと考えてよいと思います。つまりマイナーな機種(日本製は世界的にみてまだまだマイナーです)はアンロックするための技術を生み出そうとする人も少ないですし、できたとしてもそれにお金を払ってくれる人が少ないのでビジネスになりません。
あと日本のW-CDMA携帯はかなり高機能なので、もともとの価格も10万円近いものだと想像できます。今販売価格が3万円とすると、一台ボーダフォンがV801SHを販売すると、6-7万円の赤字が出るわけです。アンロックされて海外に持ち出されたらボーダフォンは困りますので、高額な端末ほどアンロックが困難になるようにしていると考えてよいのではないでしょうか。

以上、一般論ですが、SIMロック解除は普通の人がやらないほうがいいと思います。その電話機が使えなくなってもいいや、くらいの余裕を持って楽しんでくださいね。私もSIMロックを解除した電話機は一台も持っていませんし。

投稿者 俊佳 : 2004年02月14日 19:43

hello everybody
I live in HongKong
I heard that V801SH will release soon in Japan
I really wanna ask my friend(japanese)buy the phone for me,because V801SH can support GSM network,but I still have a problem...
Will Vodafone sim lockV801SH,so this mobile phone only can be used on Vodafone service?
I heard can use some method to make the phone change to"sim free"

投稿者 hiroshiy : 2004年02月14日 21:02

Hello, thanks for your post. Unfortunately ALL Japanese GSM-compatible phones are SIM locked as of now, so they can only be used with Vodafone Japan SIMs. Unlocking information is not yet available AFAIK...

投稿者 俊佳 : 2004年02月14日 22:56

thanks a lot
by the way
you mean it must have"sim unlocking"method in the future?

投稿者 俊佳 : 2004年02月14日 22:57

"sim unlocking"should be pretty underground in japan?

投稿者 hiroshiy : 2004年02月14日 23:48

I'm afraid I didn't understand your question... but in general, SIM unlock is NOT what the operators want. Some operators offer you to unlock for a fee, and some sell only SIM-free phones. Since all Japanese operators sell SIM locked phones at discounted prices, they do not want you to unlock phones easily :-)

投稿者 俊佳 : 2004年02月15日 22:14

hiroshiy さん
ありがとう^_^

投稿者 l : 2004年03月31日 12:21

V801SHって4月の何日に発売するんですか?

投稿者 JohnClark : 2004年04月22日 14:05

2004年4月28日に発売と、ヤフオクでVODAの代理店さんが予約販売を始めていました。契約にあたり、「縛り」があると思うので、質問とか、されるのが良いかと思います。

投稿者 hiroshiy : 2004年04月22日 16:15

SIMロックなしで8万とかならもちろん考えるのですが、SIMロックありなら結局半年くらいで電話代がとんでもないことになってしまうので、いらないかな? という感じです。もし縛りは2年、SIMロックありならちょっと世界的に見ても不公平な取引だと私は思います。縛りは受け入れるからSIMロックなしにして欲しいですね。

投稿者 Sean : 2004年04月24日 20:11

Hiroshi, do you know if the v801sh phones are locked when they come out of the factory? or do they get locked once you sign up and register the usim card, as in they sim-lock it at the vodafone store?

投稿者 hiroshiy : 2004年04月24日 23:10

Hi, Sean, no I don't, unfortunately. :-)
Generally speaking, firmware is burned into the phone at the factory, so my guess is that it's locked at Sharp.

投稿者 Sean : 2004年04月26日 09:50

ahhh that's too bad. i've read on some other forums that people who have bought the v801sh have had to sit through a process in which the new phone was connected to a computer via usb cable to update or "activate" the phone, or something like that. anyways, apparently it takes a while, about 20 minutes or so, and naturally i wondered if that was the sim locking taking place.

i wonder how long it will take for someone to come up with the sim unlocking codes...

投稿者 JohnClark : 2004年04月26日 13:46

ヴォ-ダフォンで、直販を開始しています
https://www.vodafone.jp/scripts/japanese/online_shop/products/select.jsp
契約については、全国統一プランで、家族割に出来ない、クレジットカードでの支払専用。とあります。また、「当サイトでお申込いただいたVGS対応携帯電話は、他事業者のUSIMカードではご使用になれません。」とありますので、ロックは、当然ありの端末ですね。

投稿者 hiroshiy : 2004年04月26日 14:45

Sean, I'm not a Vodafone insider so I don't have any "special" info; but IMHO Vodafone *Japan* seems to be very strict about SIM lock because the handset cost and the shop rebate is much higher than that of other countries...

JohnClarkさん、情報ありがとうございます。SIMフリーを8万くらいで売って欲しいなぁ。。。ボーダフォンにとっては新規3万でインセンティブ5万(←根拠なし)で8万で月額払ってくれる人がいるなら、全然問題ない気がするのですが。

投稿者 Sean : 2004年04月28日 16:11

i'll try and see if i can find out more about the sim lock from someone at a vodafone store. but usually, the sales people tend to be worthless.

投稿者 hiroshiy : 2004年04月28日 17:14

Thanks, Sean. I hope you find something useful...

投稿者 永瀬洋海 : 2004年05月02日 03:53

seems like Nokia 6650, there is a method to unlock the SIM, so are they the same method for V801 SH as well as V801 SA, is there any place or software can able to unlock it??
anyway is it possible to email J-phone and ask them for further details??
i hope they will provide the SIM unlock service soon

投稿者 hiroshiy : 2004年05月02日 15:23

Hi, 永瀬洋海-san:
SIM unlocking requires phone-specific knowledge, generally speaking, and it is against mobile operators' business interest. You get approximately $300 worth of rebate when you buy locked phones. Thus it will be *very* difficult to obtain unlocking information or ask such services at operator outlets. See my article below for further understanding of "SIM lock" (in Japanese).
http://www.yasukawa.com/blog/archives/000031.html

投稿者 Sean : 2004年05月06日 08:43

well, i am almost completely sure that vodafone will not provide you with any way to unlock the sim cards on their phones. i went to several stores, talked to their people, even tried to bribe them (i offered them each 80,000 yen if they would unlock the phone for me or tell me how to do it), but they just said it can't be done. maybe time will solve this sim-locking problem, but as you supposed, hiroshi, the phones are locked at the factory, not the store.

oh well, it was worth a try.

投稿者 hiroshiy : 2004年05月06日 09:44

Sean: thanks for your comment ;-)

投稿者 ryo : 2004年05月11日 01:46

hajimemashite. nambei ni sundeiru monodesu.
Chotto shitumon shitainodesuga...
Sharp GX32 wa V801sh towa chigau mono nanodesuka?
specwa niteruyouna kiga...

投稿者 hiroshiy : 2004年05月11日 02:56

ryo-san: Sharp GX32 is quad-band (850/900/1800/1900MHz) GSM phone that can be used worldwide except Korea and Japan. V801SH is dual-mode (900/1800/1900MHz GSM and WCDMA/UMTS) with Vodafone customizations so it can be used in WCDMA mode in Japan with Vodafone Japan.

Here's the GX32 link:
http://213.249.206.60/asia/hk/products/model.asp?language=en&id=gx32

投稿者 ryo : 2004年05月13日 14:43

Hiroshiy san gohentou arigatou gozaimashita.

投稿者 Mathew : 2004年05月14日 23:14

Emailed vodafone about unlocking the v801sh and recieved the
following reply: Moreover and USIM LOCK function is a
specification in itself, so the USIM LOCK cannot be unlocked by any
kind of application. 。。。。USIM card 。ヲ 。ヲ 。ヲ USIM
cards available in Japan can be
。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。used
only for Japanese vodafone handsets

投稿者 hiroshiy : 2004年05月15日 02:06

Mathewさん、こんばんは。上記の投稿、一部データ化けしていて読めない部分があるのです。申し訳ありませんが、再投稿していただければ編集いたします。

投稿者 Mayumi : 2004年05月15日 18:27

Hi! I live in Austarlia myself. I just came back from Japan, and bought myself a SANYO v801sa, thinking I can use my vodafone sim I have in Australia. Obviously, I didn't know about the sim locking, and my husband tried to find out more information from Vodafone Australia. Apparently the person my husband talked to, knew this SANYO v801sa and have got it unlocked by Vodafone Japan? I wonder if it is possible? I emailed Vodafone Japan, but came back with the same answer as Matthew got above. I wonder what I can to use my v801!!!

投稿者 hiroshiy : 2004年05月15日 19:16

Mayumi-san, unfortunately SIM unlocking is not popular in Japan and I have no information about unlocking Vodafone Japan's VGS phones. As you might already know, Japanese cellular phones are in general packed with a lot of features and thus, very expensive compared with those sold in other countries. Japanese cellular operators subsidize over US$300 per phone to sell new subscriptions. That's why you won't find any way to unlock phones.

BTW Japanese ARPU, or Average Revenue Per User, is about $80 per month and is of course the highest in the world, which supports that high amount of subsidy by mobile operators.

投稿者 Naojiro : 2004年05月17日 13:29

hiroshiy-san,

(for the benefit of those who cant read Japanese, ive written the below in english...)

i agree with your point as well. I'm sure you'd agree that it has been traditionally like this with the Japanese providers not wanting the technology to get outside of the country. Hence, the difference in standards and incompatibility issues which have long existed between Japanese keitais and phones of any other country.

I bought my wife the v801sh and I did find one thing to the contrary to what someone wrote above... I believe it was stated that a Vodafone rep said "USIM cards available in Japan can be used only for Japanese vodafone handsets" This is not the case.

We've tested the USIM on a Chinese Nokia 8xxx series phone and it works just fine in China. Of course, you still have to pay the expensive overseas roaming fee, but at least you can use the J-USIM on a different phone in case the 801's battery dies... The opposite however, the Chinese SIM on the V801sh does not work.

I have heard rumors that the some UK based provider's USIM (not SIM) cards worked on an NEC USIM capable Japan domestic model phone, however I am not sure if this is USIM to USIM specific or just that the NEC phone was not locked.

to all the people who are looking to use the j-domestic v801sh model outside of japan, the gx30 is looking very favorable as the next best alternative. It seems to have most of the features of my J-SH53, (minus a few bells and whistles).

-naoZiro-

投稿者 hiroshiy : 2004年05月17日 18:25

naoZiro-san, thanks for your comments.

>I believe it was stated that a Vodafone rep
>said "USIM cards available in Japan can be
>used only for Japanese vodafone handsets"
>This is not the case.

What you've stated above is correct. Vodafone USIMs and FOMA green USIMs can be used overseas with SIM-free GSM handsets, where GSM service(s) with Vodafone/NTT DoCoMo roaming agreements are deployed. This is called Kokusai Roaming, or International Roaming, and I've created a rate table for these operators.
http://www.yasukawa.com/dl/roam/

投稿者 Mathew : 2004年05月18日 12:44

Mayumi,

Have you tried using a 3 Usim card with the v801sa - perhaps that'll work since they are both Usim card...

投稿者 hiroshiy : 2004年05月18日 18:35

Mathew, thank you for your recent posts. Unfortunately the one before has some character corruption so could you re-post it? Then I'll edit your original post so it doesn't contain unreadable characters.

Also, re; 3 USIM card; V801SA is, I'm pretty sure, SIM locked to Vodafone Japan. So it will not work with 3 USIM card. It is not SIM or USIM question, SIM locking is done in the phone firmware (=software) itself.

投稿者 Yusuke : 2004年05月22日 11:15

Hi everyone,
i'm from australia and i've also been searching through the net recently trying to find a way in which to penetrate the sim lock on the v801sh... so far no hope... but mayumisan, u should take a look at this:

日本初! 801SA SIMLOCK解除済 日本語GSM
http://page2.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/b51365261?

i can't be too sure if this is real, but... seams to me that this guy has figured it out!

投稿者 hiroshiy : 2004年05月22日 15:12

Yusuke-san, be careful... if I were him, I would use a screen shot of V801SA with foreign SIMs.

投稿者 sakura : 2004年05月22日 19:05

このオークションは非常に怪しいですね。
写真がNo networkではまったく信憑性がありませんし、
20万円という最低落札価格もあまりに非現実的です。

投稿者 hiroshiy : 2004年05月22日 19:46

sakuraさん、私も同意です。いずれにしろここまでSIMフリー機がでてこない、または解除方法が出てこないということはボーダフォンは真剣、ということですから、オークションにそれらしいものが出てきたらそっちに調査のために落札されてしまうかも知れませんね(笑)。

投稿者 Masaru : 2004年05月23日 10:36

私もオーストラリアに住んでいます。下記のページに、V701Nがイギリスの3のUSIMで使えるという方の投稿があります。
http://www.gsmarena.com/sharp_v801sh-reviews-645.php

オーストラリアのネットワークで日本語のメールが送受信できる携帯電話機を探しています。いい方法を知っている方いらっしゃいませんか。

投稿者 hiroshiy : 2004年05月23日 14:09

Masaruさん、"3"なら大丈夫、って書いてありますね。本当ならオーストラリアの"3"でも使えたりして。でも基本的にはNOKIA 7600を待ったほうがいいと思います。6月中旬発売です。

投稿者 Masaru : 2004年05月24日 17:53

hiroshiyさん、ありがとうございます。7600って、これですよね?
http://www.three.com.au/index.cfm?pid=2204&pageid=2205

既に出ているようですが、この端末で日本語のメールができるということでしょうか。それとも、日本語版が発売される予定でしょうか。

投稿者 hiroshiy : 2004年05月24日 21:37

Masaruさん、そのリンク先の機種はNOKIA 7600ですが、そいつは日本語に対応していません。日本のノキアジャパンから、日本語版が発売されます。もう割引特典のある優先仮予約は終わってしまったのですが、予約を下記のサイトで行っています。
http://www.e-shopreg.com/shop/phone/7600/

SIMフリーなのでどのオペレータでも使えますが、日本のNTTドコモのFOMAではまだ、ちゃんと使用できません。オーストラリアでは2G(GSM)で使うこともできるでしょうから大丈夫でしょうね。

投稿者 Masaru : 2004年05月25日 20:52

hiroshiyさん、ありがとうございます!なるほど、日本語版が出るんですね。これは使えそうです。本当にありがとうございました。

投稿者 Mathew : 2004年05月27日 00:00

Found a link that says that there was a way to unlock the v801sh but it required a special card from sharp. Check it out below

http://www.gsmarena.com/index.php3?sRedir=http://www.gsmarena.com/sharp_v801sh-reviews-645.php

投稿者 hiroshiy : 2004年05月27日 00:52

Mathew, I've heard this kind of information from some sources, and it is understandable for the manufacturer to enable the test mode, which can also unlock the phone. It is still very hard (and impractical) to unlock it as people can't get the special SD card... anyway thanks for the info!

投稿者 season : 2004年06月16日 14:39

hi there!!i m living in USA.can u guys tell me which website can order VH801SH. cos i tried to order this cell phone from Vodafone.com. but they only deliver to Japan only. do u guys know another website has VH801SH for the sale and can ship to USA? thx for ur time!!

投稿者 dora : 2004年06月16日 15:10

dear hiroshiy,
hello, I'm living in Hong Kong. I would like to ask, can I use V801SH in Hong Kong if I use the sim card provided by those Hong Kong telecom companies?

投稿者 anonymous : 2004年06月16日 18:18

I will humbly answer as hiroshiy-san seems to be on vacation.

Season,
I don't believe non-Japanese residents can purchase V801SH (or any other
Vodafone Japan specific phones). Vodafone Japan offers this phone only
to contracted users, i.e. Japanese residents. (Selling phones without
contract is not common at all in Japan.) Even if you could purchase one,
calling cost would be significantly high outside of Japan, as V801SH is
strongly SIM-locked to Vodafone Japan.

Dora,
No. As stated above V801SH is SIM-locked. No one has ever succeeded in
unlocking. It can be used only with Vodafone Japan SIM.

投稿者 season : 2004年06月17日 00:27

err....too bad!! watever thx a lot anonymous.

投稿者 Jim : 2004年06月28日 00:02

do anyone know V801sh can use CAMERA and MULTIMEDIA function without U-SIM Card?

投稿者 anonymous : 2004年06月28日 04:42

Vodafone Japan's USIM card required.

投稿者 ken : 2004年06月28日 12:52

Hi all,anyone know in Japan have pre-paid U-Sim card for V801SH? and how about price
Thank.

投稿者 hiroshiy : 2004年06月28日 20:19

Ken, unfortunately Japanese operators do not issue prepaid SIM cards (including USIMs) yet; for prepaid mobile phones, you need to purchase non-SIM phones from operators.

投稿者 bart : 2004年07月05日 16:13

hi

I just bought v801sa and was searching to unlock it. But it seems that there's still no way. I just wondering that if it possible to record music using audio recorder and use it for ringtone (着うた).
Anyway looking forward for somebody to unlock v801sa and if they do, i thinking of buying v801sh.

投稿者 hiroshiy : 2004年07月06日 16:49

Bart, unfortunately I haven't tried it by myself but per ITmedia Mobile, V801SA allows you to use arbitrary recorded data as a ringtone. See below (in Japanese):
http://www.itmedia.co.jp/mobile/0312/03/n_voda.html

投稿者 buhunter : 2004年07月07日 00:27

hi

i think we all need to wait until the Vodafone released some unlocked V801SH for sale.

BTW, i want to buy V602SH and take it back to hong kong. I am not sure if other functions like photos taking can be used outside japan.

投稿者 hiroshiy : 2004年07月07日 01:33

buhunter, generally speaking, you can use these functions outside the coverage area, if the phone has an external memory slot such as miniSD.

投稿者 buhunter : 2004年07月07日 12:46

hi, hiroshiy

do you know about V602SH? is it another USIM phone? do you know the rental price of it? with 契約 and without 契約.

投稿者 anonymous : 2004年07月07日 18:33

V602SH is a PDC phone and does not use a USIM card.

lowest prices:
Y13,797 w/ new contract by mail order
Y18,900 ditto, at shop
Y26,250 phone upgrade(機種変更) by mail order
Y28,350 ditto, at shop
http://www.kakaku.com/sku/price/311020.htm

New contract price will usually require annual contract and possibly other optional plans.
I don't think they accept mail order from abroad.

投稿者 Gayan : 2004年07月14日 17:15

I found how to pin1 unlock code
just enter this code when it's ask for pin1 unlock
code 81864413 But I dont know if its work for every v801sa phones but it works with my v801sa
(sanyo) phone

good luck

投稿者 hiroshiy : 2004年07月15日 01:29

Gayan, thanks for your post. PIN1 Unlock Code is also called PUK1 and as you know it allows you to unlock the SIM (not the phone...) if wrong PIN1 is entered three times. PUK1 is actually "paired" with each SIM so your PUK1 will not work with other SIMs even if you were able to use that PUK1.

投稿者 Tsu : 2004年07月19日 01:01

Hello everybody, I´ve a vodafone v801sh and anybody knows how to unlock it to use another simcard, please.

投稿者 meringue4 : 2004年07月19日 02:10

投稿者 buhunter : 2004年07月24日 19:53

hi, everybody

i want to know more about the V602SH. it seems that this phone is not using the Sim card.

in that case, can i use other functions like taking photos or listening to music evne the phone is outside japan?

thanks!

投稿者 hiroshiy : 2004年07月24日 21:24

buhunter, I don't have V602SH but AFAIK you can use it as a digital camera after you unsubscribe. Take a photo, save it to mini-SD, insert the card to PC.

Basically listening to music is the same, but you need to do the following anyway, either your phone is subscribed or not.
- Download "Music Key" via Vodafone Live! "Music Key" is a license to listen music on the phone, and it costs 1,500yen per phone. This means you need to be connected at least once in Japan to download it.
- Analog cable. You can obtain it at Vodafone Store in Japan.

If you want to listen your MP3 files (instead of recording it on V602SH), you additionally need the following:
- MP3 software that supports CPRM
- SD card adapter that supports CPRM

CPRM is the copyright protection specification for removable media. See below:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2001/01/10/everything_you_ever_wanted/

投稿者 buhunter : 2004年07月25日 01:35

Thanks for replying, hiroshiy. I think it is not important to use whether japanese phone to talk with your friends, but the other functions combined. I will defintely buy a new V602SH this September for taking photos and listening to music.

投稿者 MoMo : 2004年08月20日 21:41

Hi there,
I just recently bought the V801SH but I want to know how to unlock the SIMLOCK cuz I want to use it in Canada. Does anybody know how to unlock it??

投稿者 hiroshiy : 2004年08月20日 22:57

MoMo: unfortunately there is no known way to do it.

投稿者 sushi : 2004年08月29日 18:19

will it be selling in Canada?

投稿者 news- : 2004年09月01日 03:20

news

投稿者 mike : 2004年09月01日 05:25

News? Something new??? Share with us!

投稿者 Dante : 2004年09月03日 19:21

Were using V801 SA in manila, they have software for this kind of phones. But the unlocking fee is quite expensive and it cost $100. There is the info you need....tnx!

投稿者 Alvin : 2004年09月03日 21:08

Hi,Dante:
Would you provide more detail for us please?If that woun`t be to much trouble. I think many people in here wait for this information so bad~~ include me.Thank you very much.

投稿者 Dante : 2004年09月03日 21:24

They have it in developing countries...like manila and bangkok, why other countries dont have it? ok! heres the story... I bought my 5 pieces of V801 SA here in Japan, and my friends..most of them bought 10 to 15 pieces of that V801 SA. they send it to manila as well as mine. They searched for the shop that can unlock this machine and they've found it!. The shop's owner is a Japanese with Philippine technicians, they have the software and all necessary pheripernalias for this machine...now V801 SA from Japan is working in manila.

投稿者 Matt : 2004年09月05日 13:21

Does anyone know why Vodafone will only sell 801sa and 801sh in Tokyo? I went to local Vodafone shop in Fukuoka, and they wouldn't sell me either of them. "Only in Tokyo" was their unuseful advice. Perhaps there are no 3G base stations in Kyushu?

投稿者 anonymous : 2004年09月06日 02:23

Vodafone 3G covers nationwide, including Kyushu.
http://www.vodafone.jp/japanese/service_area/vgs/kyusyu.html

You can buy them from cheap mail order shops.
http://www.kakaku.com/sku/price/311020.htm

投稿者 Coqui : 2004年09月17日 19:09

hey Dante, i am going to Manila next month. Let me know where can i find this store to unlock the V801SA.
I will confirm this and let you guys know the details or who to go to to get it done.

投稿者 Dante : 2004年09月17日 21:00

ok! here it is! GO TO SM NORTH EDSA AND AT THE BACK OF THAT HUGE DEPARTMENT STORE THERE IS A SHOP CALLED HMM, CYBER....I CANT REMEMBER, BUT THERE IS CYBER IN THE BEGINNING AND THERES A PERSON CALLED RAYMOND TELL HIM THAT YOU HAVE V801 SA OR SH! THEY HAVE SOFT FOR THIS MACHINE. THE OWNER IS A JAPANESE AND THE TECHNICIANS IS PHILIPPINE. SO, THERES INFO YOU ALL NEED! PEACE OUT!

投稿者 Coqui : 2004年09月18日 09:58

Alright thanks. Guys wish me luck, I will go there in october and bring news of what happened. Cross fingers!

投稿者 mike : 2004年09月18日 16:29

Coqui, Good Luck on your trip to the Phillipines!!! Can you find out if they could unlock the V801SH and if they would work on the unit if it's mailed to them???
Have a safe trip and hope to hear from you!

投稿者 Anonymous : 2004年09月20日 08:50

HI, I just came back from NY and I brought v66 with me. I brought it to a phone shop around the corner and they unlocked my phone with the computer program.
I am thinking to buy v801SH now. Do anybody know the same unlock program will work to unlock V801sh or they need a new unlock program to unlock it?
sorry I didn't know anything about unlock thing until very recently. Thanks

投稿者 yo : 2004年09月20日 14:33

By the way, it was us$20 to unlock V66.

投稿者 Alex : 2004年09月22日 06:18

I think the reason why you could get the V66 unlocked so quickly is that it's widely available around the world, including the US

投稿者 yo : 2004年09月22日 08:10

I see.I thought any kinds of cell phones can be unlocked easily. Too bad I want to use V801 SH in the US. Thank you so much for your comment.

投稿者 Greenberet : 2004年09月26日 12:57

Hi, someone have the software to unlok the phone? Please mail-me if someone have a method to unlok this phone. I'm Brazilian tanks

投稿者 mike : 2004年10月02日 17:15

I hope Couqi got his phone unlocked in the Phillipines! Hoping to hear some good news from Couqi! For poeple coming to tour Hawaii, and if you are bringing your V801SH/SA, make sure to set your roaming carrier to T-Mobile. AT&T is OK but you will not have good coverage like T-mobile. I set my V801SH to T-mobile "manual mode" because if you keep it in "automatic mode" it keeps switching from T-mobile to AT&T and keeps losing signal. And don't forget to bring your travel charger too! Many times I have let them use my charger at the store where I work. There are no VADAFONE here in Hawaii so come prepared! All we have in Hawaii is outdated GSM phones....

投稿者 Tony : 2004年10月09日 01:50

Hello there! I'm also from Hong Kong! I just wondering if anyone from outside Japan had purchased mobile from kakaku.com? Does Kakaku accept purchase from overseas or any recommended place for purchasing? Thanks!

投稿者 hiroshiy : 2004年10月11日 22:32

Hi, Tony,
Kakaku.com is not a merchant - rather, it is the biggest price comparison site in Japan and many smaller merchants with a few big shops participate. Thus, whether you can buy things from overseas depend on the shops who advertise there.

In most cases it's going to be difficult - all the application forms for the mobile phone contract are written in Japanese and you need to have Japanese address to activate.

投稿者 Dante : 2004年10月15日 17:10

I wonder why...when we brought my V801SA to CYBERNET, at the North Edsa, they only charged us for only 2,000 pesos (around 40 US Dollars). Now, they are charging customers for unlocking V801SA for 5,500 pesos which is equivalent to $100? why is that?

I think if only could vodafone release their unlocking software here in Japan, it might be very cheaper to unlock it here! and by the way V801SA here in Tokyo costs only 1 yen. Right hiroshi?

投稿者 hiroshiy : 2004年10月15日 22:43

Dante,
Thank you for providing unlocking info for V801SA. Hmmm, they can do it in Philippines. Interesting.

Vodafone is very serious about their customers (not the phones) - so I think we don't expect Vodafone to offer unlocked phones ever. On the other hand phone manufacturers such as Nokia offer expensive unlocked phones; that's the way it is...

Yes, with contract, you can buy V801SA at 1 yen in Japan; actually you can buy most of older phones of any operators at 1 yen (all locked).

投稿者 keil : 2004年10月16日 17:53

1 yen? Must we buy plans along with the phone? Where can I get phones without conract plans? Thanks.

投稿者 keil : 2004年10月16日 18:00

Hi, what oher phone has 3G (W-CDMA, available in Japan) and GSM 900/1800/1900 tri-band capabilities?

投稿者 hiroshiy : 2004年10月16日 18:02

Hi, Keil, yes as I said "with contract" you need to activate to get the phones. In Japan, in general you can't get the cheap phones without contract. Imagine most of these phones have 16K color displays and 1M pixel digital cameras... they must be expensive.

You can end most of the contracts any time and in these cases you keep the phone. In such a case though, the phone is locked so you can't use it in other countries. Some people sell these phones at auction sites.

投稿者 hiroshiy : 2004年10月16日 18:20

Hi, Keil, as of now V801SA and V801SH only, but more phones coming in this winter from Vodafone. See below:
http://www.vodafone.jp/english/release/2004/040922e.pdf

If you're OK with expensive ones you can choose any of "unlocked" 3G/GSM dual mode phones available worldwide (such as Nokia 7600, Motorola A835, etc) to use with Vodafone Japan network.

投稿者 Colombo : 2004年10月26日 20:03

Hi. It seems that V801 SA/SH is possible to unlock in SriLanka. I know people who have done it there and are using it in SriLanka.

投稿者 hiroshiy : 2004年10月26日 22:53

Hi, Colombo,
Do you have any pointers to the contact info?

投稿者 ウガウガ : 2004年10月28日 22:38

イギリスのボーダフォンのsimカードをいれてもだめですかね?

投稿者 hiroshiy : 2004年10月28日 22:54

ウガウガさん、試してみたわけではありませんがおそらくだめではないかと。それにVodafoneだけ使えても。。。

投稿者 Coqui : 2004年10月29日 01:14

Hey fellas got back, and is part true about the unlocking. I found the store in SM North Edsa, behind there is a sort of strip mall called Cyberzone, once you go in you take a right and the second store(which i forgot the name and dumb me didnt get a card!) unlocks it. The problem is that they wanted my phone for 3 days and only on weekdays to unlock it. They charge 4,500 pisos (roughly about $90). It was my only source of comunication so i didnt leave it. I have some friends on the philippines that work on phones and semiconductor companies and they where checking out to see if they could unlock the phone, because of all the philippines that was the only place that knew how to unlock it which sounded kind of fishy. At the end, with my friend's weeding preparations and others stuff, i wasnt able to return to the store.

What i plan to do next? I am looking into buying more V801SA and sending them to my friend, like you all may know, a lot of phones in japan after 7 months of being released drop in price dramatically. I am checking to see if i can find the phone in one of the store in tokyo. An used one, probably two or three for a cheap price and seding them over. THat way, if they guy is just ripping up people, them i wont have a big lost.

投稿者 Anonymous : 2004年11月02日 13:12

Where can i buy japanese phones at if im from the states. specifically a sharp v601sh? its about a year old but i still cant find anyone really selling it.

投稿者 hiroshiy : 2004年11月03日 01:17

Coqui, thanks for the post. I heard the same address and the same mall name for the V801SA unlocking, though it is not very reliable source. Unfortunately I don't have a chance to go to Manilla (I've been there twice) so when your friend successfully unlocks the phone at the store, please let us know. Yes I think it reduces the risk if you use cheap phones.

>>Where can i buy japanese phones at if im from the states. specifically a sharp v601sh?

It is only available in Japan, as V601xx and lower numbered models are all Japanese market models. Like Coqui mentioned above, V701xx, V802xx and V900xx are globalized, GSM compatible, locked dual-band phones that can also be used with WCDMA. V601SH thus can not be used in the States (doesn't work as a phone).

投稿者 Anonymous : 2004年11月06日 11:17

yea, i just wanted to use the v601sh just as a camera, but im not even sure if that would work. i tried buying one of them on yahoo auctions japan..but no luck. nobody is willing to ship internationally.

投稿者 mike : 2004年11月06日 12:43

Hey Couqi, Sorry to hear you did not have any success unlocking you V801SA... I don't have any friends in the Philliphines and I'm asking around to see if my friends has any stable contact with someone in the Phillipines. I would send my second V801SH and have them take it to the place and see if they would unlock the V801SH. I know what you mean by "fishy" and I would hate to take a chance on a expensive unit. $100 US dollar to unlock is resonable to me (if they really could do it).

I wish you luck when you send some V801SA's to test and see if it's for real that they can unlock it.

投稿者 hiroshiy : 2004年11月06日 13:02

Hi,
>>i just wanted to use the v601sh just as a camera

Yes it should work, as the phone takes SD memory card and you can save the pictures on it. Also you can find V602SH (newer model) here. It now has optical 2x zoom, but other specs are similar, sold at 1 yen in Tokyo with activation.
http://www.vodafone.jp/english/products/kisyu/v602sh/

I checked some retail outlets and found that most of these shops require "Happy Bonus" plan signup, which has 10,000 yen cancellation fee within two years. Thus in general the phone seems to cost slightly over 10,000 yen at Yahoo! auctions.

投稿者 Anonymous : 2004年11月07日 13:00

Oh, i see. thanks for the info hiroshiy. its been very helpful! hopefully i'll be able to get my hands on one of those phones.

投稿者 stephanie : 2004年11月11日 00:29

pls tell me the exact address of the store that unlock v801sa. im from the philippines.. tnx email me @ gurl_thng@hotmail.com

投稿者 pro2v5 : 2004年11月11日 10:37

Hi to all. Can someone tell me where can I buy a cheap V801SA? Im from the Philippines and SM North Edsa is just a few minutes away from our office. I am very much interested in verifying if this phone can really be unlocked here. Thanks!

投稿者 Anonymous : 2004年11月16日 19:39

I can't imagine that there is no one in Japan that can unlock this phone... I guess that you just need to know the right guy to ask to unlock this phone! I know how the phone company in Japan works and make their profit with each activation bundle, but it's unfair that we in the US can't unlock the phone and use it here in the US. Vodafone's international rate is too expensive and their domestic provider (like t-mobile, at&t, etc) is ripping me off billing me when I'm not even using the phone with unkown phone number and date that I haven't even called, but it says there is usage according to the detailed billing statement from Vodafone. Vodafone says they can't do anything about it because it is registering by t-mobile, at&t, etc. and t-mobile, at&t won't do anything about it saying I have to deal with Vodafone. So we're (the user of Vodafone VGS service) is getting the run around and getting ripped off like hell!!!!!!! It's such an unfair practice! We just want to use the Vodafone brand cell in the US without paying an arm and a leg! Come on underground people who has the capability to unlock the software, give us poor suffering people in the US a break. Unlock the phone for us!

投稿者 hiroshiy : 2004年11月16日 23:47

Hi,
Just 2 cents; Japanese phones made by Japanese manufacturers *might* have NO lock/unlock feature at all. Actually the feature isn't useful anyway here, because people do not know they can "unbundle" phone and the service.

You can still buy unlocked 3G dual-mode phones from Nokia Japan (currently 7600, 6630 coming this winter) as an alternative. It's not prohibitively expensive.

投稿者 mike : 2004年11月18日 08:26

Konnichiwa Hiroshiy-san, Hiroshiy-san ga yutteru kokono tokoro ga yoku wakaranai node shitsumon nano desuga...

"Just 2 cents; Japanese phones made by Japanese manufacturers *might* have NO lock/unlock feature at all."

"Might have NO lock/unlock feature" douyuu koto nano deshyouka??? Watashiwa ima V801SH o 2 dai motte imasu, ichidai wa chanto shita Vodafone no plan ga ari tsukaeru kotoga dekimasu.

Nokia no keitai no katachiga amari hidoi node morattemo tsukaitaku arimasen! nihon no Sharp, Sanyo, NEC, etc. nado no seimitsuna ii keitai o koko Hawaii de tsukai ta----i!!! Hawaii ni aru keitai wa nihon to kuraberuto 10 nen wa okurete imasu, kuzu to yuttemo machigae wa nai to omoimasu. saiteina "design" to hidoi "quality" desu... nantoka nihon no keitai ga koko de tsukaeru hi ga kuru koto o negatte irunodesuga... dekisoumo arimasenne..

投稿者 sakura : 2004年11月21日 23:37

>Nokia no keitai no katachiga amari hidoi node morattemo tsukaitaku arimasen!

>saiteina "design" to hidoi "quality" desu...

海外の携帯に興味のある日本人の多くは、
日本の携帯は折りたたみばっかりで画一的でつまらない、
仕様やサービスもキャリアにしばられて自由がない、
海外の携帯はデザインもメーカーもいろいろ選べてうらやましい、
と思っているようですが…

隣の芝は青い、といいますか、面白いものですね。

投稿者 mike : 2004年11月27日 16:34

Sakura-san, iroiro hito no kangaekatawa chigaimasune... nihongo wa tsuma ni yakushite moraimashita, watashi wa kanji ga nigate nanode... koko hawaii ni nagaku sundeiru to iroiro nihon no mono ga yoku kanjite kuruno desune.
US wa keitai no plan ga nihon to chigau no wa yoku wakarimasu, US wa 1 kagetsu ikuraka haratte nanbyaku jikan tsukaihoudai desu, demo nihon wa ikura ikagetsu harattemo keitai de kakeru to okanega ikuraka ippun kakaru no wa shouchi shitemasu. SOREDEMO nihon no ii saikou no keitai o tsukaitai!!! sukoshi okane o haratte mo nihon no keitai o tsukaitai!!! ima jibun ga motte iru Vodafone no V801SH o tsukauto ippun de 125 yen... takai... mousukoshi nanotoka "roaming" ga yasuku nattara to omotte imasu.
Chigau hanashi nanodesuga, ima wa Vodafone Live ya mail nado packet tsuushin o issai tsukatte nainoni Vodafone kara packet o tsuketteru to yuu seikyuu ga kurunodesu, soremo 1 kagetsu $40 kara $100 mo NANIMO packet nanka tsukatte nainoni sekyuu ga kuru nodesu! Vodafone ni nandomo denwa o kaketemo nanimo shitekuremasen. USB cable o tsukatta toka (USB cable nanka motte nai!) iroiro Vodafone no "customer service" mo nanio yatteru noka wakaranai jyoutai desu. packet nanka tsukatte nainoni, Vodafone Live mo cancel shitanoni, mai tsuki seikyuu ga kuru node atamani kitemasu! Mattaku Vodafone wa nanimo kaiketsu shikureru mikomi ga arimasen. konna hanashi ni natte shimatte suimasen... sochirawa donna keitai no "carrier" o tsukatte imasuka? koko hawaii wa T-mobile, AT&T (Cingular), Verizon, Sprint to Nextel shika arimasen. AT&T to Sprint wa denpa ga saitei desu, Verizon to Nextel wa ikkagetsu ga kekkou takaino desu. T-mobile ga ichiban imanotokoro yasukute denpa no hairi mo yoku ii "carrier" desu. nagaku natte shimaimashita, soredewa yoi Christmas o osugoshi kudasai!

投稿者 hiroshiy : 2004年11月29日 21:04

Hi, Mike,
# BTW you write amazing amount of Japanese in roma-ji!

With regard to your charges for packet data, honestly I have no idea if you don't have Vodafone Live! contract... Do you receive SMS, as a result of receiving long email?

投稿者 mike : 2004年12月02日 10:15

Hi Hiroshiy, regarding the packet charges from Vodafone, I am so confused and I have no idea why I'm being charged this kind of packet charges. I have stopped subscription to Vodafone Live and don't use SMS, Long Mail, Short Mail, Mail via vodafone number, etc. nothing!!! so I don't know why T-mobile is generating this kind of packet charges every month! Vodafone customer service is stupid and don't know what they are looking for and blames it on T-mobile, and they won't let me talk to their (Vodafone's) technical service department. I asked Vodafone for T-mobile's technical service department number but they will not give it out (or they just don't know...). So, I'm stuck with a bill every month for something I don't used at all.
Is there something like a "Consumer Protection Agency" in Japan? Anywhere I can complain this incident to?
by the way about my romaji? I was born in Japan and came to Hawaii when I was still small, I've never been to a Japanese school so I can't read/write kanji, but I can speak Japanese and English fluently.

投稿者 hiroshiy : 2004年12月02日 11:52

Mike, thanks for the post. Re; romaji, now I understand why you're almost native in Japanese.

For the T-mobile wrong packet charges, I can call Vodafone Japan for you as I'm also very interested in this incident... Actually this sounds really frightening to me.

I'll send you an email from my Gmail account so if you think it's worth please let me know your Vodafone phone number in reply.

投稿者 mike : 2004年12月02日 13:15

Thank you Hiroshiy-san, please if can mail me to my yahoo address I will give you my Vodafone number.

投稿者 花子 : 2004年12月02日 14:10

今シンガポールに来ています。V801SHを持っているのでこちらのSiMカードを入れてみたら、「Pinコードと入力してください」とでたので入力したらPiNコードを読み
画面がでてきました。その後「USIMカードを確認してください」となります。・・ということはPiNは読める・・ってことですよね。スリランカでもタイでもいいのでアンロックしてくれるところ教えていただけませんか?

投稿者 hiroshiy : 2004年12月02日 17:13

花子さん、こんにちは。SIMからPINを読み出す部分は標準化されていると思いますので、SIMロックされていようがいまいが、表示されるのでしょうね。今のところアンロック情報は確実なものは出てきていないですね。。。

投稿者 花子 : 2004年12月03日 14:44

Hiroshiy さん、ありがとうございます。
801SAのアンロック品がヤフーででていましたけど、これってどこのSIMでもつかえるのでしょうか?
SAができるのなら近いうちにSHもできそうなきがしますが・・・。日本で使えなくってもいいので、アンロックしたいです・・・。

投稿者 hiroshiy : 2004年12月03日 18:45

花子さん、本当に信用できるSIMフリーの端末は、メーカーから「SIMフリー」として出荷されたものだけです。GSMの世界は何でもありなので、「アンロック品」というのはどのような流通ルートを辿ってきたものか、はっきりとは分かりません。携帯電話にはIMEIというオペレータ(携帯電話会社)が端末を識別するIDがあるのですが、アンロック品の中にはこれが他の人と同一ものがあったりもします。

同一のIMEIを持っている人と同じ地域で携帯を使うとどうなるのか、、、もしかすると、使えないかも知れません。

あとご参考までに、アンロック品として販売されているものは、特定のオペレータのSIMでは使えないものもあるかも知れません。

投稿者 richard : 2004年12月08日 16:36

I've had the 801sa for about 2 months. I get bad reception where I live (Yokosuka). I have to see how much it costs to cancel my contract. If someone is willing to buy my phone for a good price I would sell it.

投稿者 Anonymous : 2004年12月08日 18:08

Vodafone V801SA has been unlocked and cfmobile is selling unlocked V801SA now.How about V801sh??http://www.cfmobile.com/picture/v801/index.php

投稿者 hiroshiy : 2004年12月08日 23:17

Wow, thanks for CFmobile info! I've sent them an email for more details. The video is a must-see.

投稿者 ccrt : 2004年12月19日 15:14

hi
I just wondered
does any one know V801sa asks a unlockcode
when you try to use the local sim card with the phone?

投稿者 Anonymous : 2004年12月20日 11:08

you have to "BUY" the unlocked version from CFmobile. I don't think CFmobile will unlock it for you or they will sell you the unlocking software, unfortunately.....

投稿者 Anonymous : 2004年12月20日 12:53

ccrt,

V801SA is manufactured for Vodafone Japan only. It is not supposed to be unlocked. Thus it does not ask any unlock code even if you insert a local SIM. It just says "Insert correct SIM."

投稿者 ccrt : 2004年12月20日 17:11

thats too bad if it does my friend in UK
says may be he can create the soft ware
by customising old unlocking soft ware
he created

投稿者 ccrt : 2004年12月21日 17:17

こんにちわCCRTです
実はイギリスの友達に
アンロックコードをv801saは
聞いてこないといったら。
ともだちはv801SAは
UsimカードならどこのNetwork
でもつかえるのではないか
といいっています。みなさんはどうおもいますか?

投稿者 hiroshiy : 2004年12月21日 19:59

ccrtさん、V801SAはボーダフォン(日本)にロックされていて、解除することができるかどうかも現時点では知られていません。一部の会社がおそらくリバースエンジニアリングだと思いますが(このページの上のほうにその会社のサイトへのリンクがあります)、V801SAのSIMフリー化を行った、という記述があります。私の想像ですが、これはファームウェアを何らかの方法で書き換えることにより行っていると思いますし、そのために標準的な端子を経由しないで、分解してクリップのようなものを基盤に装着して作業するのではないかと思います。

この方法でファームウェアを書き換えると保証対象外になりますし、故障だけでなく工業製品としての製造物責任についても自己責任になると思います。十分に気をつけて検討してください。

投稿者 sakura : 2004年12月22日 02:57

>実はイギリスの友達に
>アンロックコードをv801saは
>聞いてこないといったら。
>ともだちはv801SAは
>UsimカードならどこのNetwork
>でもつかえるのではないか
>といいっています。みなさんはどうおもいますか?

それはGSM圏の人の発想ですね。
日本の携帯の「設計段階から特定のオペレータでだけ使うようにできている」という特徴を知らないで、
「SIMロックされているものは何らかの解除方法が最初から用意されているはずだ
(=用意されていなければSIMフリーだ)」という「GSMの常識」をあてはめて言っているのではないでしょうか。

hiroshiyさんが推測されているようなかなり強引な方法で外すことも不可能ではないかもしれませんが、
それはNokiaやMotorolaがコードやclipで外せるというのとは
まったく意味合いが違うと考えたほうがよいでしょう。
後者は鍵のかかっているドアを合鍵で開けるようなもの、
前者はドアもなにもないところを壁を叩き壊して入るようなものです。

投稿者 ccrt : 2004年12月22日 16:19

ボーダフォンUKの3G
携帯用のUsimカードでは
だめでしょうか?

投稿者 hiroshiy : 2004年12月23日 00:52

ccrtさん、一般的には、国が違うと会社も違いますので、社名がたまたま似ていてもSIMロックは有効です。したがって、日本のボーダフォンにロックされている端末はUKのボーダフォンのSIMでは動かないと思います。しかし、これは一般論で、試してみないと本当のことは分かりません。SIMロックというのはいろいろなことができますので、ロックされている=使えない、とは限りません。
逆に、そういうことを心配したくなければ、SIMフリーを買うしかない、ということでもあります。

投稿者 vince : 2004年12月29日 10:33

Hiroshiy san,
binsento to moshimasu. Hajimemashite, yoroshiku onegaishimasu. sumimasen, ほかのemailあどれすありますか?oshietekudasai. ごめんあさいけど801sa noしつもんあります.
arigatougozaimasu.

投稿者 JohnClark : 2004年12月29日 17:31

こんばんわ。その2
ボーダフォンの本命機種、PSPにも導入された、ASV液晶を
搭載した、Vodafone 902SHが、明日より発売されます。
オンラインショップによれば、新規購入で、税込み、24800円
https://www.vodafone.jp/scripts/japanese/online_shop/products/select.jsp
N900IGより、ずっと、安いっす!!(2台買える)
年間契約のマジックもありそうですが。
PSPを持って毎晩遊んでおりますが、ASV液晶は、恐ろしいくらい、綺麗です。
ボーダフォン プレスリリース(PDF形式)
http://www.vodafone.jp/japanese/release/2004/041228.pdf
ボーダフォン 製品情報
http://www.vodafone.jp/japanese/products/model_3G/v902sh/
シャープ ニュースリリース
http://www.sharp.co.jp/corporate/news/041228-a.html
シャープ 製品情報
http://www.sharp.co.jp/products/902sh/

投稿者 CCRT : 2005年01月05日 14:49

V801SAをアンロックできるかもしれないサイトをみつけましたhttp://www.tokyobikan.com/simrock.htm

投稿者 sakura : 2005年01月06日 01:57

>1.本体の送付・本体の操作など一切不要!
>2.本体のSIM解除をしなくでも世界のSIM カードが使用可能!(国内初)
>*V801SA以外は通常の本体解除になります。

かなり意味不明ですね…

投稿者 ccrt : 2005年01月06日 16:03

今回902SHはイギリスでも売られているようですよ
http://www.vodafone-i.co.uk/live/3g_phones.html

投稿者 はなこ : 2005年01月07日 17:07

OORTさん、ありがとうございます。このサイトでV801SHのアンロックも近日発売予定となっていますね。
今後の様子を拝見しましょう。

投稿者 Jackymid : 2005年01月12日 11:27

Dear guys, I am from Shanghai, China. I am Crazy abouy V801sh nearly a year. Unfortunately the Call was locked by Vodafone,but I just find the web that 'CCRT' mentioned in the last post, it seems like the call has already been unlocked in Japan. I can't read any Japanese, is there any guys willing to tell me the words on the Web(http://www.tokyobikan.com/simrock.htm) mentioned. Many thanks.

投稿者 hiroshiy : 2005年01月12日 23:25

Jackeymid, the site still says it "will" be available, but I personally do not recommend to try to unlock such phones, as V801SA seems to be designed strictly Japanese-domestic and the unlockers *might* be tweaking firmware to accept foreign SIMs. By doing so, the phone may have new bugs associated with tweaked firmware, which eventually could render the phone unusable.

投稿者 Jackymid : 2005年01月13日 11:09

To hiroshiy: Thanks for your post. But I just find something interesting, The Unlocked version of V801SA had been already sold in China for a period of time(you can find by the site:http://auction1.taobao.com/auction/15-1512-151209/item_detail-0db1-9c8fe51407407deae86c6e2789803c92.jhtml or http://cgi.ebay.com.cn/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=62016&item=5742186428&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW),but I'm only crazy about the V801sh, Goddamn......

投稿者 sakura : 2005年01月14日 03:32

Jackymid,

IMO the tokyobikan.com unlocking page is very questionable about
V801SA/SH. Unlike normal unlocking, the "NEW SIM 解除(unlocking)" method
they insist seems to be tweaking your SIM card (not the phone) to be
used with V801SA/SH. I guess the tweaked card will probably pretend to
be Vodafone Japan's USIM card.

Even if this method should work, there would be follwing problems:

- Note that the phone itself is still locked. You can't use a SIM card
unless you have it tweaked in advance.

- The tweaked card may not be used with other phones or may cause some
unpredictable problems.

投稿者 hiroshiy : 2005年01月14日 13:52

sakura-san, thanks for the comment. This is my first time to learn about "SIM tweaking"... is the HK New World SIM "comp128-v1" so it can be hacked? In such a case I don't think there are many operators left which still use comp128-v1.

投稿者 ccrt : 2005年01月15日 03:16

hi people
does any of you here knows
how to say or write simロック解除(sim unlock)
in triditional chinese?

投稿者 ccrt : 2005年01月15日 03:49

hi again
i just found a web site
which may be tells the place
where to unlock the v801sa
but unfortunatoly the language used in this website
is not only english

if you go on to the web you will know what i mean
http://www.admpartners.com/blog/2003/11/vodafone_japan_.html

see ya

投稿者 sakura : 2005年01月15日 08:35

Unlocking is SIM解鎖 in Chinese.

投稿者 ccrt : 2005年01月15日 16:44

thanks

投稿者 Anonymous : 2005年01月16日 11:23

On the GSM Arena there are writing that all European Vodafone V902SH are unlocked. Can someone tell me if this is true??? If it is ture then wouldn't there be tons of unlocked V902SH's on eBay??? Just wanted to know what's going on in Europe.

投稿者 pro2v5 : 2005年01月17日 12:48

to ccrt:

the discussion on the web site u've shared is in Tagalog (Philippine language). Up to now, unlocking of V801SA is still a rumor. News regading the possible V801SA unlocking in the Philippines have not yet confirmed.

投稿者 ccrt : 2005年01月21日 23:26

hi people i found a softwear which caluculates unock code for nokia
but i'm not sure weather it can unlock
nokia 6630 vodafone jp edition.The soft wear has vodafone japan where you select
what network is the phone is locked to.
Do you think i can unlock the phone?

投稿者 ccrt : 2005年01月21日 23:27

投稿者 sakura : 2005年01月22日 03:55

Nokiaのアンロックコード算出ソフトはちょっと探せばいろいろ見つかりますよ。
どれを使ったらいいか迷うくらい。
ただし、それらは、単にNokia端末共通の既知の算出方法で機械的に算出しているだけで、
またオペレータ一覧も単に機械的にMCC/MNCをリストアップしているだけですから、
普通と異なる強力なロックがかかっている機種は、
一覧に載っているからといってアンロックできる保証はありません。
というか、702NKに関しては、その種のものではだめだという結論になっているはずです。
DoCoMoのNokia3100/3120も、それら一般的なコードではアンロックできなかったようですし。

投稿者 ccrt : 2005年01月22日 12:14

試してもあまり意味がないという
ことですか
残念

投稿者 Devil : 2005年01月30日 14:46

hi, I also in HK, if I buy Sharp 902SH in Japan, Can I use in HK?? The mobile is sim unlocked.

投稿者 ccrt : 2005年01月30日 16:38

i went to the cfmobiles.com
I just found out by using translater
looks like guy called power ken canunlock the v801sa. idon't know any chinese so idon't know whether he will unlock the phone for the public?

http://www.cfmobile.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?viewmode=flat&topic_id=393&forum=9

投稿者 hiroshiy : 2005年01月30日 20:57

Hi, Devil,
Vodafone 902SH by Sharp has WCDMA and GSM triband capabilities, so IF it is not SIM locked, it should work with any HK 3G/GSM operators. Where do you plan to unlock 902SH? I haven't heard it can be unlocked.

ccrt-san,
I'm not sure why you're so enthusiastic about V801SA; I guess you'd better contact them here:
http://www.cfmobile.com/picture/v801/

I dropped an email requesting information about V801SA unlocking, and it seems that they will re-flash the phone with customized software.

投稿者 Jackymid : 2005年02月02日 17:02

Hi guys, I also found some unlocked sharp 902 was sold on Ebay UK which is the price GDP250~300, it must be the Euro version.I also heard that someone in china had used unlocked v801sh, but the information was not been confirmed.I want to know if I get a V902sh from Japan, how much dose it cost?(I mean after break the contract)

投稿者 hiroshiy : 2005年02月02日 21:11

Jackymid, Vodafone Online Shop (Japan) offers 26,040JPY (tax incl):
https://www.vodafone.jp/scripts/japanese/online_shop/products/select.jsp

Most mail-order stores do not have V902SH in stock, but they are definitely cheaper:
http://www.kakaku.com/prdsearch/detail.asp?PrdKey=31102010652

投稿者 Chris Chin : 2005年02月02日 22:43

Hello!
I live in Hong Kong
I bought Sharp 902SH from Japan.
When I plug Hong Kong mobile network sim card
This phone can't work.
I think this phone Sim Locked.
Do you know how to unlock?
Thank you.

投稿者 Johnny : 2005年02月03日 18:18

hihi:
こんにちは、私は香港からきて、v902shが日本のsim unlockにあることをお聞きするか?

投稿者 Jackymid : 2005年02月07日 17:31

to hiroshiy :

Hey you guys, maybe I found something really interesting, pls. check the post http://www.soi-japan.com/sbbs/sbbs.cgi?sch=%5B22-30%5D

http://www.soi-japan.com/sbbs/sbbs.cgi


Could you tell me what they mentioned in the post, cause I don't know Japanese at all, Tks !

And also maybe a good news about unlocking the Sharp phones, http://www.irwebonline.com/acatalog/Sharp_902_Twin_Sim_Cover_-_Ghost_Dual_Sim.html

http://www.irwebonline.com/acatalog/Sharp_V801SH.html

Is that means I can use the Network of China with their "Twin Sim Adapter", I mean not Roaming?

投稿者 Jackymid : 2005年02月07日 17:34

投稿者 hiroshiy : 2005年02月07日 19:09

Hi, Jackymid,
The guy in the first BBS was just asking the same question everybody asks. He wants to know how to unlock Vodafone Japan 3G phones.

Re; DualSim, this is a famous adapter in GSM world, but I personally do not recommend using it. You need to cut the SIM in half, and set two of those trimmed SIMs into the DualSim module, which is difficult I guess. Also this doesn't unlock your phone at all, it just swaps two SIMs.

Re; Unlock Code Generator, it says it can only unlock Vodafone UK locked phones. They *might* have a list of unlock codes associated with IMEI for Vodafone UK, thus they can only unlock certain IMEIs.

投稿者 はなこ : 2005年02月10日 15:02

・・で結局だれもV801SHのアンロックに成功した人はいないってことでしょうか?
バンコクでできるとか、いろいろうわさだけが飛び交っていますね。
確実な情報が欲しいものです。

投稿者 ccrt : 2005年02月10日 15:57

don't trust http://www.irwebonline.com
i asked them unlock code for V66
but they don't send me the code
I have waiting for one month

投稿者 vk2 : 2005年02月17日 22:23

almost ordered v902sh (shiro ROM) with friend from Japan but found that it is SIM locked....so got to hold on...

投稿者 vk2 : 2005年02月18日 22:01

Any natives Japanese who can help to confirm if Shiro ROM is indeed SIM Locked? THanks!

投稿者 hiroshiy [TypeKey Profile Page] : 2005年02月19日 18:28

Hi, vk2, yes "Shiro ROM" means just it is sold without activation, and it does not mean "SIM free" or "unlocked". In v902sh case, nobody found unlocked one yet..

投稿者 vk2 : 2005年02月19日 20:55

Hi Hiroshiy, Thanks for your prompt reply...guess will just have to wait till someone offer unlock services or get the UK version. Is there any difference in the software between Japan & UK version?

投稿者 hiroshiy [TypeKey Profile Page] : 2005年02月19日 21:46

Hi, vk2, yes I think the software should be different, as Japanese version has Japanese font and IME (software to convert keystrokes to Japanese characters) and *might possibly* have bigger Flash.

投稿者 vk2 : 2005年02月28日 15:11

Seems still no news about unlocking Japan 902sh while ebay has quite a no. selling UK version with Unlocked SIM though price is rather steep.
Perhaps will have to settle for SE V800 though specs is lower...

投稿者 Jackymid : 2005年03月02日 13:32

to hiroshiy:
Can I know which is the cheapest price I can get for a V802se(without bonding contract) in Japan? It seems like V802se is the only Japanese mobile phone can be unlock and used all over the world.

投稿者 hiroshiy [TypeKey Profile Page] : 2005年03月03日 00:27

Hi, Jackymid, you can search the cheapest store in kakaku.com, the biggest Japanese price comparison site. These sites generally do not ship overseas, so if you want one you would need to ask a Japanese friend to buy one for you. Also, cheap stores usually carry a "shibari", which requires very long (>one year) contract terms and some other options (call waiting or support contract for example). You should search for "shibari-nashi" or 縛りなし if you don't want complex stuff.
mail order with new activation >>http://www.kakaku.com/prdsearch/detail.asp?PrdKey=31102010653
store with new activation >>http://www.kakaku.com/prdsearch/detail.asp?PrdKey=31102030655

投稿者 Jose : 2005年03月12日 08:30

Hello,
I use a Vodafone GX20 in Spain, with a 64k Vodafone Sim card. If I buy a 902SH in Japan will I be able to use it on it? It's also a Vodafone sim card. So my question is:

- Is the 902SH simlocked to VODAFONE?
- Is the 902SH simlocked to VODAFONE KK (Japan) Only?

日本で買った902SHで、スペインのボダフォンのSIMカードが使えるかなと思ってます。Simロックがあるのもう知ってるけど、スペインのボダフォンはボダフォンのカードですから、どう思いますか?

よかったら教えて下さい。よろしく!

投稿者 hiroshiy [TypeKey Profile Page] : 2005年03月12日 12:49

Hi, Jose - unfortunately SIM lock usually locks the phone to that specific operator. So in this case, 902SH Japanese version is locked to Vodafone Japan, and it can't be used with Vodafone Spain SIM card.

投稿者 Ryan : 2005年03月22日 13:52

could anyone help me with PUK1... I hade accidentally inputted my PIN1 3x and now its asking me for the PUK code,could any here might know how to unlock my Sim card... My unit is Vodafone, V801SA by sanyo...
Thank you very much. By the way i am from manila

投稿者 hiroshiy [TypeKey Profile Page] : 2005年03月22日 22:26

Hi, Ryan, which operator's SIM card are you using? PIN and PUK belong to the SIM card, not the phone itself. If you're using local operator's SIM card (SMART/Globe) please contact your operator and they might have the answer. If you're using Vodafone Japan's SIM card, Vodafone Japan will tell you the PUK if you provide them your passcode for identification.

In most cases PUK is written on the paperwork when you get the SIM card..

投稿者 noynoy : 2005年04月09日 13:49

hi guys im presently here in japan&im aware of ur problems regarding the v801sa,in fact others have it from sri lanka!in the philippines(SM mall notrh edsa branch.topwin telecom) there is a rumor that they can unlock the V801SA using a developed software..if you had a free time may be you should try because alot of V801SA owners wait for this opportunity,in if in case its true your cell problem may be ended..hope to help you guys

投稿者 Suzy : 2005年05月19日 10:32

My friend got her V801SA unlocked in England and she used it with a Vodafone UK SIM card with no problem. I am hoping that the same person will be able to unlock my V801SH, but will have to wait and see when I get back home.

投稿者 mike : 2005年05月23日 17:23

Hi Hiroshiy-san!

Here are some difference I found between the European and Japan version of the 902SH. On the "Data Folder" the European version does not have "DCIM" where pictures are stored, they are all stored in the "Pictures" folder.
Another thing is "Media Player" the Japan version has selection for "SD AUDIO" but the European version does not have that option.
Many people told me that they cannot load MP3 onto the Japan 902SH. I may have heard that the Japan version can't load MP3's? I have no problem loading MP3 onto the European version of the 902 via data cable or straight to the SD card (it's loaded into the "data Folder" under "Sounds&Ringtones). I'll will be getting a 3rd 902SH, a unlocked 902SH (Japan Version) soon so I can test it out. The Original locked 902SH still in service with Vodafone KK, I don't want to experiment since it's working so well! Thanks for your help in the past! Aloha!

投稿者 Kevin : 2005年07月29日 21:18

v801sh, 802sh and 902sh can all be unlocked/flashed with setool. www.setool.net

setool3 is about $300 USD (you can flash/unlock unlimited SE, LG and selected Sharp handsets).

V801SA: can Qualcomm QPST or QXDM help in any way to unlock?

投稿者 hiroshiy [TypeKey Profile Page] : 2005年07月30日 01:12

Hi, Kevin, thanks for your post. Yes some Japanese unlockers are doing business with setool here. BTW Vodafone Japan just announced 903SH yesterday:
http://www.itmedia.co.jp/mobile/articles/0507/28/news050.html
3G/tri-band GSM, Bluetooth, 3.2M pixels camera with 2X optical zoom

投稿者 Mobileboy [TypeKey Profile Page] : 2005年08月29日 12:23

Hi Kevin! What should i do to unlock my V801SA whit Qualcomm QPST? I'd like to know step by step ok? Thanks...

投稿者 Zack : 2005年09月16日 06:05

I recently purchased a 903sh from tokyo and came to singapore.
The phone does not seem to recognise my singapore sim card.

Is there any way to fix this?

投稿者 hiroshiy [TypeKey Profile Page] : 2005年09月16日 16:30

Zack,
Unfortunately ALL (with only one exception) Japanese cellular phones are SIM locked, which means they can ONLY work with the Japanese operator's SIM card. Thus with your Singapore SIM, the phone will not work at all. To learn why this happens, please click the link below:
http://www.yasukawa.com/blog/archives/000031.html

I haven't seen any outlets that "unlocks" 903SH yet. It may appear, but may not forever. Next time you purchase the Japanese handset, make sure it is "unlock"-able; if you want to use it with Singapore SIM or any other SIMs in the world.

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